Dynamic Discs Evidence Review

Like or Love?

Dynamic Discs Evidence in leaves

Will the Evidence be a disc I like, I love, or neither?

At the most basic level, the discs in my bag can be divided into two categories. The first is discs I love. These are the discs that aren’t going anywhere. In order for them to leave my bag, you’d have to pry them from my cold, dead hands. You’ve heard me talk about them repeatedly. The Latitude 64 Pure, the Dynamic Discs Trespass, and the Dynamic Discs Verdict all fit this description. I wish all of the discs in my bag were in this first category. Alas, they are not.

The second group is made up of discs I like. They work for me, but they have not found a permanent home. These are the discs that, honestly, I kind of “make due” with. Nothing against them, but I’m patiently waiting to find a replacement for them that falls squarely in the first category. That’s me, always looking for love.

My stable and understable midrange slots are both firmly in this second category. For the stable (meaning the disc will hold the line I put on it) slot I’ve given long auditions to the Discraft Buzzz, Innova Shark, Dynamic Discs Truth, and the Latitude 64 Opto Claymore. For the understable slot I’ve given equally long auditions to the Discraft Buzzz SS, Discraft Meteor, Westside Discs Tursas, Latitude 64 Fuse, and the Latitude 64 Gold Line Claymore.

So far I’ve been happiest with the Claymores in the two different plastics. They are flat, beadless, and feel a whole lot like the Verdicts I love so much. I haven’t ruled out love yet. But it’s a slow courtship. The midrange is such a critical disc, I really want to get it just right. You’d think after years of playing I would have filled this slot, right?

Love at first sight?

A little over 2 weeks ago, I got a Fuzion Evidence from Dynamic discs. This was the midrange disc for this year’s Trilogy Challenge. Of the 3 discs used this year, the Evidence was getting the best reviews by far. Forums were abuzz with people raving about this disc. While reports of how it flew varied from player to player, one thing was uniform. Everyone seemed to love it.

When I received the Fuzion version, I was honestly slightly disappointed. And this was before I even threw it. The Fuzion version has a bit of a dome to it. Not a lot, but enough for me to notice. I dream of the day when every disc in my bag is board flat. Flat discs and I get along really well. Domey discs, not so much.

It did fly nicely, but it was pretty similar to my Gold Line Claymore. So, after just one round (and really only a few throws), the Evidence was out of the bag.

But then something wonderful happened. I went to the mailbox two weeks ago and what was there waiting for me? 2 shiny new discs just in from Dynamic for me to review and then give away to you. One of those discs was a Lucid Evidence. From the moment I took it out of the envelope, you guessed it, I was in love.

Dynamic Discs Evidence on a log

First, it was flat. Second, it was in my most favorite plastic. If you’ve followed my disc reviews at all, you know that I love all of the Latitude 64 plastic (Latitude manufactures Lat 64, Dynamic, and Westside). It’s the biggest reason why that’s all I throw right now. It’s not brand loyalty, it’s plastic loyalty. Their plastic is just money.

Every once in a while, they release a run of Lucid (known as Opto in Lat 64 and VIP in Westside) that is opaque and grippy. It’s like they blend a little Fuzion in with the Opto. It makes the disc opaque instead of the normal clear you find for most Opto discs. The phrase “it’s like butter” was made for this plastic. If I could get every disc I throw in this blend, I’d be in heaven.

I’m guessing most of you know how I was feeling at this point. I hadn’t even thrown the disc yet and I was already infatuated. We’ve all picked up discs before that just feel perfect to us. This is what happened with this Evidence and I. I just stood there at my mailbox fondling the disc with a goofy grin on my face and possibly a little drool running down the corner of my mouth.

Well, I’ve been here before. Sometimes no matter how great disc feels in the hand, that doesn’t mean you’ll like how it flies. I had the same reaction to the Dynamic Discs Felon and I genuinely don’t like that disc. I tried to like it, I really did. It just wasn’t to be.

So, out to the course we went. I wanted to see if the initial spark between the Evidence and I would turn into anything meaningful.

It’s a longer Pure!

That pretty much says it all. It only took one round for this disc to make my bag. Every time I throw one of my beloved Pures off the tee, I fall in love with that mold just a little bit more. Every time I step up on a tee where my target is just out of reach of the Pure, I wish I had a longer one in the bag. I reluctantly reach for a Truth or Opto Claymore instead.

The quickest and most succinct description I can give of the Dynamic Discs Evidence is that it’s a longer Pure. For me it flies on the same lines with same controllability, just longer range.

For now, enough with my opinions, let’s get into some details.

Now For the Details…

Dynamic Discs Describes the Evidence…

The Evidence is a slightly understable midrange disc that is very controllable. Where the Verdict and the Truth take care of your straight to overstable midrange needs, the Evidence will handle the other side of the spectrum. It will hold the anhyzer angle through a full glide while slowly coming back to a flat flight. The Verdict, Truth, and Evidence feel very similar in the hand with complementary flights to carve around any obstacle you face. When your scores are accusing you of bad shots, you need the Evidence to set the record straight.

Speed – 5
Glide – 5
Turn – -1
Fade – 0

Max Weight: 180g

InBounds Flight Chart

Agree or Disagree?

I’m not sure that I’d rate the turn at -1. While the Evidence will hold an anny, you really have to throw it hard to get it to turn. Even then, it more kind of shifts to the right instead of turning over. I would also rate the fade at .5. If thrown flat, it won’t exactly fade, but it does start to drift left when it slows down. In the end, it’s mostly straight.

Physical Description.

I’ve already touched on the profile. It’s flat in the Lucid plastic and has a slight dome in Fuzion. It has a typical width midrange rim. Very much like the Truth, Claymore, Verdict, Buzz, Shark, or any other beadless midrange.

To help you get an idea, here’s a few pics of the rim from different angles.

 

How does it fly?

Hyzer

What happens with the Evidence when thrown on a hyzer will depend on how hard you throw it. With an aggressive pull, it will flip up to flat and ride pretty straight. With an all out pull, or if you have a big arm, it will flip up and start to slide right. If thrown cleanly it won’t dump over, but it will go right for you. If thrown at 75%-85% (which is about how hard I typically throw my mids), it will sit up almost flat, go straight for much of its flight, and then fade some at the end.

It won’t hold a hard hyzer line the whole way unless you really throttle back on it. I found that on stand still shots, throwing at 50%-60%, I could get it to hyzer around obstacles fairly easily.

Flat

At about 75% power (hard enough to get it to go 275′ or so), the Evidence pretty much went dead straight. It has a tic of fade at the end, but I think that’s more because it’s new. I have a strong feeling that once it’s been used a bit, that little bit of fade will disappear. Thrown harder than that, a flat throw did see some left to right movement. Thrown with a lot of power and it rode right nicely without getting out of control.

Anhyzer

The Evidence held an anhyzer well. It seemed to want to stay at the angle it was thrown at and ride right its entire flight without changing much. It did seem to start to flex back a tad at the end, but as mentioned before, I think this is more because it’s new. I don’t think it will continue to do this. I really liked how it didn’t turn any more than asked. Some understable discs can be pretty touchy. The Evidence had some forgiveness to it on these throws.

Headwind

This is not a headwind disc. It withstood some breezes, but that’s about it. Even with hyzer, a moderate wind pushed the disc to the right and it wasn’t even thinking about coming back. Thrown flat into a stiff gust and it was all over.

Tailwind

The Evidence is cash money in a tailwind. Like most stable to understable discs, it flew well with the wind at its back. The glide was enough to ride the breeze and give it a good sized distance boost. While it did pick up a little bit more end of flight fade to the left, it wasn’t a huge difference. It can still be relied on to give a fairly straight flight all the way to the ground even when the wind is at your back.

Distance

I was able to get the Evidence to about 310′ reliably. Interestingly, the Fuzion version seemed to glide better and was consistently about 10′-15′ longer on most distance throws. I’m guessing the difference in dome was what came into play here. It was straight with very little turn all the way up to throwing with 275′ of power. It was once I tried pushing it further that it started to show its turn.

How’s your arm?

You have a cannon and your drives are 450′ plus…

This will be a beautiful turn over mid for you. You’ll really have to take something off of your throws to get the straight flights described in this review. If you are looking for a straight mid, I’d suggest discing up to the Truth (or Buzzz or Roc etc). If you want something that moves right, and you already throw the Truth for your straight shot, the Evidence is the ticket.

You don’t have a cannon, but you can drive 325′ – 400’…

The Evidence will fly as reviewed above for you. While you will be able to make it turn, you’ll most often find it flying straight where you aimed it. You’ll be able to easily get a hyzerflip flight out of it too. It will quite possibly be the straightest mid you’ve thrown while still being reliable and not just turning over on you out of nowhere.

You have more of a BB gun than a cannon for an arm and your drives are under 300’…

The Evidence will still go straight for you on a flat throw. It will also be a disc that can teach you how to hyzerflip as your arm gets faster. It will have some fade at the end of the flight when throw with a hyzer or flat. All of that said, it will also still hold an anny line for you as well. You might find it fighting out of it’s right hand turn a little more than I described above, but you should be able to rely on it turning right if you start it out that way.

Dynamic Discs Evidence in the grass

What’s it similar to?

Like I stated above, for me it’s pretty much a longer Opto Pure. Straight, straight, and more straight.

The next comparison is one that I heard Eric McCabe make. He said it’s the Truth for people who don’t have the arm for a Truth. I totally agree with that. If you have trouble getting a Truth to go straight with minimal fade at the end, the Evidence will give you that flight with little difficulty. I also find it to be less sensitive to launch angle than the Truth.

For me, the Truth stays at pretty much exactly the angle you throw it at. That can give some people problems who like to hyzerflip a mid to go straight. If you don’t have the arm speed, the Truth will not flip up and instead will turn left on you. The Evidence is much easier to get to flip up to flat and ride straight.

Other discs that I find to be very similar to the Evidence are the Axiom Alias, the Innova Mako 3, the MVP Tangent, and the Discmania MD. The closest Discraft disc would be the now OOP Buzz GT.

Summary

If you couldn’t tell, I really like this disc. Honestly, it’s too new for me to determine if it will be a “pry it from my cold dead hands” disc or not. But things are looking pretty good so far. I liked it enough that it was in my bag last weekend for tournament rounds both Saturday and Sunday. I threw it a lot and liked it more each time I did.

Ken Climo and many other pros have been quoted as saying the hardest shot in disc golf is the dead straight controlled one. A big part of that is skill. But at least some of it is having the right disc. Veteran pros have the luxury of having beat to perfection Rocs that they’ve had for years. Very few discs can come close to those flights right out of the box.

For me, the Evidence is one of those discs. When thrown cleanly with no wrist roll it’s a point and shoot mid that goes exactly where you aim it and flies on the path you set it on. It’s got plenty of hyzerflip goodness for the woods and those challenging tight tunnels we all love so much.

If you are looking for a stable mid that likes to go where you throw it, check out the Dynamic Discs Evidence. It might just be the love affair you’ve been looking for.

How to win a Dynamic Discs Evidence

Now that the reviewing part is over with, I’ll be sending my review copy of the Dynamic Discs Evidence off to one of you! All you have to do is subscribe to the blog by entering your email address below. On Wednesday, 10/22/15 we’ll select one lucky subscriber to win.

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LHBH / RHFH Version:

LHBH/RHFH Version of the Review…

Like or Love?

Dynamic Discs Evidence in leaves

Will the Evidence be a disc I like, I love, or neither?

At the most basic level, the discs in my bag can be divided into two categories. The first is discs I love. These are the discs that aren’t going anywhere. In order for them to leave my bag, you’d have to pry them from my cold, dead hands. You’ve heard me talk about them repeatedly. The Latitude 64 Pure, the Dynamic Discs Trespass, and the Dynamic Discs Verdict all fit this description. I wish all of the discs in my bag were in this first category. Alas, they are not.

The second group is made up of discs I like. They work for me, but they have not found a permanent home. These are the discs that, honestly, I kind of “make due” with. Nothing against them, but I’m patiently waiting to find a replacement for them that falls squarely in the first category. That’s me, always looking for love.

My stable and understable midrange slots are both firmly in this second category. For the stable (meaning the disc will hold the line I put on it) slot I’ve given long auditions to the Discraft BuzzzInnova SharkDynamic Discs Truth, and the Latitude 64 Opto Claymore. For the understable slot I’ve given equally long auditions to the Discraft Buzzz SSDiscraft MeteorWestside Discs TursasLatitude 64 Fuse, and the Latitude 64 Gold Line Claymore.

So far I’ve been happiest with the Claymores in the two different plastics. They are flat, beadless, and feel a whole lot like the Verdicts I love so much. I haven’t ruled out love yet. But it’s a slow courtship. The midrange is such a critical disc, I really want to get it just right. You’d think after years of playing I would have filled this slot, right?

Love at first sight?

A little over 2 weeks ago, I got a Fuzion Evidence from Dynamic discs. This was the midrange disc for this year’s Trilogy Challenge. Of the 3 discs used this year, the Evidence was getting the best reviews by far. Forums were abuzz with people raving about this disc. While reports of how it flew varied from player to player, one thing was uniform. Everyone seemed to love it.

When I received the Fuzion version, I was honestly slightly disappointed. And this was before I even threw it. The Fuzion version has a bit of a dome to it. Not a lot, but enough for me to notice. I dream of the day when every disc in my bag is board flat. Flat discs and I get along really well. Domey discs, not so much.

It did fly nicely, but it was pretty similar to my Gold Line Claymore. So, after just one round (and really only a few throws), the Evidence was out of the bag.

But then something wonderful happened. I went to the mailbox two weeks ago and what was there waiting for me? 2 shiny new discs just in from Dynamic for me to review and then give away to you. One of those discs was a Lucid Evidence. From the moment I took it out of the envelope, you guessed it, I was in love.

Dynamic Discs Evidence on a log

First, it was flat. Second, it was in my most favorite plastic. If you’ve followed my disc reviews at all, you know that I love all of the Latitude 64 plastic (Latitude manufactures Lat 64, Dynamic, and Westside). It’s the biggest reason why that’s all I throw right now. It’s not brand loyalty, it’s plastic loyalty. Their plastic is just money.

Every once in a while, they release a run of Lucid (known as Opto in Lat 64 and VIP in Westside) that is opaque and grippy. It’s like they blend a little Fuzion in with the Opto. It makes the disc opaque instead of the normal clear you find for most Opto discs. The phrase “it’s like butter” was made for this plastic. If I could get every disc I throw in this blend, I’d be in heaven.

I’m guessing most of you know how I was feeling at this point. I hadn’t even thrown the disc yet and I was already infatuated. We’ve all picked up discs before that just feel perfect to us. This is what happened with this Evidence and I. I just stood there at my mailbox fondling the disc with a goofy grin on my face and possibly a little drool running down the corner of my mouth.

Well, I’ve been here before. Sometimes no matter how great disc feels in the hand, that doesn’t mean you’ll like how it flies. I had the same reaction to the Dynamic Discs Felon and I genuinely don’t like that disc. I tried to like it, I really did. It just wasn’t to be.

So, out to the course we went. I wanted to see if the initial spark between the Evidence and I would turn into anything meaningful.

It’s a longer Pure!

That pretty much says it all. It only took one round for this disc to make my bag. Every time I throw one of my beloved Pures off the tee, I fall in love with that mold just a little bit more. Every time I step up on a tee where my target is just out of reach of the Pure, I wish I had a longer one in the bag. I reluctantly reach for a Truth or Opto Claymore instead.

The quickest and most succinct description I can give of the Dynamic Discs Evidence is that it’s a longer Pure. For me it flies on the same lines with same controllability, just longer range.

For now, enough with my opinions, let’s get into some details.

Now For the Details…

Dynamic Discs Describes the Evidence…

The Evidence is a slightly understable midrange disc that is very controllable. Where the Verdict and the Truth take care of your straight to overstable midrange needs, the Evidence will handle the other side of the spectrum. It will hold the anhyzer angle through a full glide while slowly coming back to a flat flight. The Verdict, Truth, and Evidence feel very similar in the hand with complementary flights to carve around any obstacle you face. When your scores are accusing you of bad shots, you need the Evidence to set the record straight.

Speed – 5
Glide – 5
Turn – -1
Fade – 0

Max Weight: 180g

InBounds Flight Chart

Agree or Disagree?

I’m not sure that I’d rate the turn at -1. While the Evidence will hold an anny, you really have to throw it hard to get it to turn. Even then, it more kind of shifts to the left instead of turning over. I would also rate the fade at .5. If thrown flat, it won’t exactly fade, but it does start to drift right when it slows down. In the end, it’s mostly straight.

Physical Description.

I’ve already touched on the profile. It’s flat in the Lucid plastic and has a slight dome in Fuzion. It has a typical width midrange rim. Very much like the Truth, Claymore, Verdict, Buzz, Shark, or any other beadless midrange.

To help you get an idea, here’s a few pics of the rim from different angles.

How does it fly?

Hyzer

What happens with the Evidence when thrown on a hyzer will depend on how hard you throw it. With an aggressive pull, it will flip up to flat and ride pretty straight. With an all out pull, or if you have a big arm, it will flip up and start to slide left. If thrown cleanly it won’t dump over, but it will go left for you. If thrown at 75%-85% (which is about how hard I typically throw my mids), it will sit up almost flat, go straight for much of its flight, and then fade some at the end.

It won’t hold a hard hyzer line the whole way unless you really throttle back on it. I found that on stand still shots, throwing at 50%-60%, I could get it to hyzer around obstacles fairly easily.

Flat

At about 75% power (hard enough to get it to go 275′ or so), the Evidence pretty much went dead straight. It has a tic of fade at the end, but I think that’s more because it’s new. I have a strong feeling that once it’s been used a bit, that little bit of fade will disappear. Thrown harder than that, a flat throw did see some right to left movement. Thrown with a lot of power and it rode left nicely without getting out of control.

Anhyzer

The Evidence held an anhyzer well. It seemed to want to stay at the angle it was thrown at and ride left its entire flight without changing much. It did seem to start to flex back a tad at the end, but as mentioned before, I think this is more because it’s new. I don’t think it will continue to do this. I really liked how it didn’t turn any more than asked. Some understable discs can be pretty touchy. The Evidence had some forgiveness to it on these throws.

Headwind

This is not a headwind disc. It withstood some breezes, but that’s about it. Even with hyzer, a moderate wind pushed the disc to the left and it wasn’t even thinking about coming back. Thrown flat into a stiff gust and it was all over.

Tailwind

The Evidence is cash money in a tailwind. Like most stable to understable discs, it flew well with the wind at its back. The glide was enough to ride the breeze and give it a good sized distance boost. While it did pick up a little bit more end of flight fade to the right, it wasn’t a huge difference. It can still be relied on to give a fairly straight flight all the way to the ground even when the wind is at your back.

Distance

I was able to get the Evidence to about 310′ reliably. Interestingly, the Fuzion version seemed to glide better and was consistently about 10′-15′ longer on most distance throws. I’m guessing the difference in dome was what came into play here. It was straight with very little turn all the way up to throwing with 275′ of power. It was once I tried pushing it further that it started to show its turn.

How’s your arm?

You have a cannon and your drives are 450′ plus…

This will be a beautiful turn over mid for you. You’ll really have to take something off of your throws to get the straight flights described in this review. If you are looking for a straight mid, I’d suggest discing up to the Truth (or Buzzz or Roc etc). If you want something that moves left, and you already throw the Truth for your straight shot, the Evidence is the ticket.

You don’t have a cannon, but you can drive 325′ – 400’…

The Evidence will fly as reviewed above for you. While you will be able to make it turn, you’ll most often find it flying straight where you aimed it. You’ll be able to easily get a hyzerflip flight out of it too. It will quite possibly be the straightest mid you’ve thrown while still being reliable and not just turning over on you out of nowhere.

You have more of a BB gun than a cannon for an arm and your drives are under 300’…

The Evidence will still go straight for you on a flat throw. It will also be a disc that can teach you how to hyzerflip as your arm gets faster. It will have some fade at the end of the flight when throw with a hyzer or flat. All of that said, it will also still hold an anny line for you as well. You might find it fighting out of it’s left hand turn a little more than I described above, but you should be able to rely on it turning left if you start it out that way.

Dynamic Discs Evidence in the grass

What’s it similar to?

Like I stated above, for me it’s pretty much a longer Opto Pure. Straight, straight, and more straight.

The next comparison is one that I heard Eric McCabe make. He said it’s the Truth for people who don’t have the arm for a Truth. I totally agree with that. If you have trouble getting a Truth to go straight with minimal fade at the end, the Evidence will give you that flight with little difficulty. I also find it to be less sensitive to launch angle than the Truth.

For me, the Truth stays at pretty much exactly the angle you throw it at. That can give some people problems who like to hyzerflip a mid to go straight. If you don’t have the arm speed, the Truth will not flip up and instead will turn right on you. The Evidence is much easier to get to flip up to flat and ride straight.

Other discs that I find to be very similar to the Evidence are the Axiom Aliasthe Innova Mako 3, the MVP Tangent, and the Discmania MD. The closest Discraft disc would be the now OOP Buzz GT.

Summary

If you couldn’t tell, I really like this disc. Honestly, it’s too new for me to determine if it will be a “pry it from my cold dead hands” disc or not. But things are looking pretty good so far. I liked it enough that it was in my bag last weekend for tournament rounds both Saturday and Sunday. I threw it a lot and liked it more each time I did.

Ken Climo and many other pros have been quoted as saying the hardest shot in disc golf is the dead straight controlled one. A big part of that is skill. But at least some of it is having the right disc. Veteran pros have the luxury of having beat to perfection Rocs that they’ve had for years. Very few discs can come close to those flights right out of the box.

For me, the Evidence is one of those discs. When thrown cleanly with no wrist roll it’s a point and shoot mid that goes exactly where you aim it and flies on the path you set it on. It’s got plenty of hyzerflip goodness for the woods and those challenging tight tunnels we all love so much.

If you are looking for a stable mid that likes to go where you throw it, check out the Dynamic Discs Evidence. It might just be the love affair you’ve been looking for.

How to win a Dynamic Discs Evidence

Now that the reviewing part is over with, I’ll be sending my review copy of the Dynamic Discs Evidence off to one of you! All you have to do is subscribe to the blog by entering your email address below. On Wednesday, 10/22/15 we’ll select one lucky subscriber to win.

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Support Mind Body Disc…

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Most people shop on Amazon. If you are one of them, please consider getting there through this link. There’s also one in our footer and on our side bar. It doesn’t cost you anything but a click, but it’s huge for us. Things like dyed discs, giveaways, and maintaining the blog all cost money. This is an easy way for you to help us continue bringing you what we do!

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